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0008306Part 84: UAFX ProfilesSpecpublic2022-09-14 14:07
ReporterBob Lattimer Assigned ToBob Lattimer  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status closedResolutionfixed 
Product Version1.00.00 RC3 
Fixed in Version1.00.00 
Summary0008306: Minimum admin cycle time of 200 µs or smaller needs to be aligned with FA/PA requirements
Description

The 200 µs value for ports operating on 100 Mb/s in the UAFX EthernetBridgeQuantities Scheduled Traffic minCT ConformanceUnit was arrived at somewhat arbitrarily based on the 20 µs value for 1 Gb/s ports.

These values should be changed if a requirement exists that goes above or below.

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Bob Lattimer

2022-09-07 22:01

manager   ~0017558

Last edited: 2022-09-07 22:03

Ken Lee took an action to research FA/PA requirements regarding cycle times which resulted in the attached email thread.

Paul Brooks added to a separate branch of the email thread:

All, the most important requirement is User Story 5941 and its child marketing requirements.

For Motion the common cycle time (5942) is 2ms which was the lowest number that met everyone’s requirements and ACs with a minimum cycle time of 400ms (5945) must be supportable

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:135.0pt;text-indent:-135.0pt;tab-stops:

135.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span

style='color:black'>From:<span style='mso-tab-count:1'>�������������������������������������������� </span></span></b><span

style='color:black'>Dietmar Bruckner &lt;Dietmar.Bruckner@br-automation.com&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:135.0pt;text-indent:-135.0pt;tab-stops:

135.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span

style='color:black'>Sent:<span style='mso-tab-count:1'>���������������������������������������������� </span></span></b><span

style='color:black'>Monday, August 29, 2022 7:22 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:135.0pt;text-indent:-135.0pt;tab-stops:

135.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span

style='color:black'>To:<span style='mso-tab-count:1'>������������������������������������������������� </span></span></b><span

style='color:black'>Steindl, Guenter (DI FA TIP SAT); Kenneth Lee (Schneider

Electric); Ren� Hummen; Alen Mehmedagic; Satou, Atsushi (A.Satou@yokogawa.com);

Alexander Gogolev; Alexander Ockert; Ziegler, Alexander (DI PA CI TI); AllenTL

Huang (</span><span style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei",sans-serif;mso-hansi-font-family:

Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Microsoft YaHei";color:black'>ÞP[+P</span><span

style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Microsoft YaHei";color:black'>); Mrosowski,

Anja; Bastian Otto; Bob Lattimer; Brian Batke; Mangin, Christophe; DAVID CHO;

McCall, David; Paul Didier; Georg St�ger; George Ditzel (Schneider Electric);

glessmann@phoenixcontact.com; Jack CY Lin (</span><span style='font-family:

"Microsoft YaHei",sans-serif;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:

"Microsoft YaHei";color:black'>�g�OYO</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:

"Microsoft YaHei";color:black'>); Woods, Jordon; Josef Dorr; Karl Wachswender;

Lars Ellegaard - M31680; Li Ming; Ludwig Leurs; Lukas Wuesteney; Maik Seewald;

Marius-Petru Stanica; Mittelberger, Martin (DI PA DCP TI); Nithin Babu; Patrick

Loschmidt; Paul Brooks; Peter Lutz; Priyadharshini Prabhakaran; Rafael Selent;

Shahaji B; Stephan Kehrer; Thomas Enzinger; Tom Ko (</span><span

style='font-family:"Microsoft YaHei",sans-serif;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;

mso-bidi-font-family:"Microsoft YaHei";color:black'>�g�\f</span><span

style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Microsoft YaHei";color:black'>); Vincent

Lacroix<o:p></o:p></span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:135.0pt;text-indent:-135.0pt;tab-stops:

135.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span

style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Microsoft YaHei";color:black'>Subject:<span

style='mso-tab-count:1'>���������������������������������������� </span></span></b><span

style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Microsoft YaHei";color:black'>AW: UAFX

Networking WG - minimum cycle time<o:p></o:p></span></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal>Dear all,</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Ken and G�nter for the research and recollection.</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>It looks like we need to further specify on these figures,

since we need on the one hand minimal values, on the other hand the minimum to

be supported ordinal values.</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'>Proposal:<o:p></o:p></span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT style='color:red;mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'>instead

of:<o:p></o:p></span></p>



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 <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes;

  page-break-inside:avoid'>

  <td width=96 valign=top style='width:71.75pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:red;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Infrastructure<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  </td>

  <td width=174 valign=top style='width:130.5pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell align=left style='text-align:left'><span lang=EN-GB

  style='color:red;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>UAFX EthernetBridgeQuantities

  Scheduled Traffic minCT<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  </td>

  <td width=384 valign=top style='width:4.0in;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:red;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Support

  minimum admin cycle time of 200&nbsp;�s or smaller for scheduled traffic for

  ports operating on 100 Mb/s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:red;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Support

  minimum admin cycle time of 20&nbsp;�s or smaller for scheduled traffic for

  ports operating on 1 Gb/s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  </td>

 </tr>

</table>



<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:red'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#385723'>new:<o:p></o:p></span></p>



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 <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;page-break-inside:avoid'>

  <td width=96 valign=top style='width:71.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:

  EN-GB'>Infrastructure<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  </td>

  <td width=174 valign=top style='width:130.55pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell align=left style='text-align:left'><span lang=EN-GB

  style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>UAFX EthernetBridgeQuantities

  Scheduled Traffic minCT<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  </td>

  <td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.15pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:

  EN-GB'>Support minimum admin cycle time of 250&nbsp;�s or smaller for

  scheduled traffic for ports operating on 100 Mb/s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:

  EN-GB'>Support minimum admin cycle time of 25&nbsp;�s or smaller for

  scheduled traffic for ports operating on 1 Gb/s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  </td>

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 <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:1;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes;page-break-inside:avoid'>

  <td width=96 valign=top style='width:71.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:

  EN-GB'>Infrastructure<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  </td>

  <td width=174 valign=top style='width:130.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:

  none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell align=left style='text-align:left'><span lang=EN-GB

  style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>UAFX EthernetBridgeQuantities

  Scheduled Traffic supportedCTs<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  </td>

  <td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.15pt;border-top:none;border-left:

  none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:

  EN-GB'>Support at least admin cycle times of multiples of 250�s and multiples

  of 200�s for scheduled traffic for ports operating on 100 Mb/s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

  <p class=TABLE-cell><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:

  EN-GB'>Support at least admin cycle times of multiples of </span><span

  style='color:#385723;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>25�s and </span><span

  lang=EN-GB style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>multiples of </span><span

  style='color:#385723;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>31,25�s </span><span

  lang=EN-GB style='color:#385723;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>for scheduled

  traffic for ports operating on 1 Gb/s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=DE-AT style='font-size:

10.0pt;font-family:"Helv",sans-serif;color:black;mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'>Regards<br>

Dietmar<o:p></o:p></span></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1'><b><span lang=DE

style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'> Steindl, Guenter &lt;<a href="mailto:guenter.steindl@siemens.com">guenter.steindl@siemens.com</a>&gt;

<br>

<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 29. August 2022 12:46<br>

<b>An:</b> Kenneth Lee &lt;<a href="mailto:kenneth.lee@se.com">kenneth.lee@se.com</a>&gt;;

Ren� Hummen &lt;<a href="mailto:Rene.Hummen@belden.com">Rene.Hummen@belden.com</a>&gt;;

Alen Mehmedagic &lt;<a href="mailto:alen.mehmedagic@se.com">alen.mehmedagic@se.com</a>&gt;;

Alex Sato &lt;<a href="mailto:a.satou@yokogawa.com">a.satou@yokogawa.com</a>&gt;;

Alexander Gogolev &lt;<a href="mailto:alexander.gogolev@huawei.com">alexander.gogolev@huawei.com</a>&gt;;

Alexander Ockert &lt;<a href="mailto:aockert@hilscher.com">aockert@hilscher.com</a>&gt;;

Ziegler, Alexander &lt;<a href="mailto:alexander.ziegler@siemens.com">alexander.ziegler@siemens.com</a>&gt;;

Allen Huang &lt;<a href="mailto:AllenTL.Huang@moxa.com">AllenTL.Huang@moxa.com</a>&gt;;

Anja Mrosowski &lt;<a href="mailto:Anja.Mrosowski@meg.mee.com">Anja.Mrosowski@meg.mee.com</a>&gt;;

Bastian Otto &lt;<a href="mailto:Botto@hilscher.com">Botto@hilscher.com</a>&gt;;

Bob Lattimer &lt;<a href="mailto:bob.lattimer@opcfoundation.org">bob.lattimer@opcfoundation.org</a>&gt;;

Brian Batke &lt;<a href="mailto:babatke@ra.rockwell.com">babatke@ra.rockwell.com</a>&gt;;

Christophe Mangin &lt;<a href="mailto:c.mangin@fr.merce.mee.com">c.mangin@fr.merce.mee.com</a>&gt;;

David Cho &lt;<a href="mailto:cho@idata-inc.jp">cho@idata-inc.jp</a>&gt;; David

McCall &lt;<a href="mailto:david.mccall@intel.com">david.mccall@intel.com</a>&gt;;

Didier Paul (<a href="mailto:padidier@cisco.com">padidier@cisco.com</a>) &lt;<a

href="mailto:padidier@cisco.com">padidier@cisco.com</a>&gt;; Dietmar Bruckner

&lt;<a href="mailto:Dietmar.Bruckner@br-automation.com">Dietmar.Bruckner@br-automation.com</a>&gt;;

Georg St�ger &lt;<a href="mailto:georg.stoeger@tttech-industrial.com">georg.stoeger@tttech-industrial.com</a>&gt;;

George Ditzel &lt;<a href="mailto:george.ditzel@se.com">george.ditzel@se.com</a>&gt;;

Gunnar Lessmann &lt;<a href="mailto:glessmann@phoenixcontact.com">glessmann@phoenixcontact.com</a>&gt;;

Jack CY Lin &lt;<a href="mailto:Jack.Lin@moxa.com">Jack.Lin@moxa.com</a>&gt;; Woods,

Jordon &lt;<a href="mailto:jordon.woods@analog.com">jordon.woods@analog.com</a>&gt;;

Dorr, Josef &lt;<a href="mailto:josef.dorr@siemens.com">josef.dorr@siemens.com</a>&gt;;

Karl Wachswender &lt;<a href="mailto:Karl.Wachswender@latticesemi.com">Karl.Wachswender@latticesemi.com</a>&gt;;

Lars Ellegaard &lt;<a href="mailto:lars.ellegaard@microchip.com">lars.ellegaard@microchip.com</a>&gt;;

Li Ming &lt;<a href="mailto:li.ming@huawei.com">li.ming@huawei.com</a>&gt;;

Ludwig Leurs &lt;<a href="mailto:Ludwig.Leurs@boschrexroth.de">Ludwig.Leurs@boschrexroth.de</a>&gt;;

Lukas Wuesteney &lt;<a href="mailto:Lukas.Wuesteney@belden.com">Lukas.Wuesteney@belden.com</a>&gt;;

Maik Seewald &lt;<a href="mailto:maseewal@cisco.com">maseewal@cisco.com</a>&gt;;

Marius-Petru Stanica &lt;<a href="mailto:marius-petru.stanica@de.abb.com">marius-petru.stanica@de.abb.com</a>&gt;;

Mittelberger, Martin &lt;<a href="mailto:martin.mittelberger@siemens.com">martin.mittelberger@siemens.com</a>&gt;;

Nithin Babu &lt;<a href="mailto:nithin.babu@in.abb.com">nithin.babu@in.abb.com</a>&gt;;

Patrick Loschmidt &lt;<a href="mailto:patrick.loschmidt@tttech-industrial.com">patrick.loschmidt@tttech-industrial.com</a>&gt;;

Paul Brooks &lt;<a href="mailto:pbrooks@ra.rockwell.com">pbrooks@ra.rockwell.com</a>&gt;;

Peter Lutz &lt;<a href="mailto:peter.lutz@opcfoundation.org">peter.lutz@opcfoundation.org</a>&gt;;

Priyadharshini Prabhakaran &lt;<a href="mailto:priyadharshini.p@kalycito.com">priyadharshini.p@kalycito.com</a>&gt;;

Rafael Selent &lt;<a href="mailto:rafael.selent@de.abb.com">rafael.selent@de.abb.com</a>&gt;;

Shahaji B &lt;<a href="mailto:shahaji.b@in.abb.com">shahaji.b@in.abb.com</a>&gt;;

Stephan Kehrer &lt;<a href="mailto:Stephan.Kehrer@belden.com">Stephan.Kehrer@belden.com</a>&gt;;

<a href="mailto:thomas.enzinger@inchstone.com">thomas.enzinger@inchstone.com</a>;

Tom Ko &lt;<a href="mailto:Tom.Ko@moxa.com">Tom.Ko@moxa.com</a>&gt;; Vincent

Lacroix &lt;<a href="mailto:lacroix@systerel.fr">lacroix@systerel.fr</a>&gt;<br>

<b>Betreff:</b> AW: UAFX Networking WG - minimum cycle time<o:p></o:p></span></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal>Hello Ken,</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>thanks for pointing this out.</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>According to my memory:</p>



<p class=MsoNormal>Two basic scales were identified   the n*25�s and the

n*31,25�s   as needed.</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>Out of these numerical series some values may be mandatory,

some may be optional.</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>n*31,25�s (historically dividing 1kHz by 2)</p>



<ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc>

 <li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span

     style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Includes the n*125�s

     numerical series &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></li>

</ul>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>n*25�s (10& 100& 1000 series)</p>



<ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc>

 <li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span

     style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Includes the n*125�s

     numerical series &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></li>

</ul>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>125�s will be se common denominator& </p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>Thus, 20�s and 200�s doesn t fit into the above mentioned

numerical series!</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'>G�nter<o:p></o:p></span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-outline-level:1'><b><span lang=DE

style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'> Kenneth Lee &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:kenneth.lee@se.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>kenneth.lee@se.com</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt; <br>

<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 26. August 2022 22:33<br>

<b>An:</b> Ren� Hummen &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:

DE-AT'><a href="mailto:Rene.Hummen@belden.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>Rene.Hummen@belden.com</span></a></span><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>&gt;; Alen Mehmedagic &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:

DE-AT'><a href="mailto:alen.mehmedagic@se.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>alen.mehmedagic@se.com</span></a></span><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>&gt;; Alex Sato &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:a.satou@yokogawa.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>a.satou@yokogawa.com</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; Alexander Gogolev &lt;</span><span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:alexander.gogolev@huawei.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>alexander.gogolev@huawei.com</span></a></span><span lang=DE

style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; Alexander Ockert &lt;</span><span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:aockert@hilscher.com"><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>aockert@hilscher.com</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; Ziegler, Alexander (DI PA DCP TI)

&lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:alexander.ziegler@siemens.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>alexander.ziegler@siemens.com</span></a></span><span lang=DE

style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; Allen Huang &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT

style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:AllenTL.Huang@moxa.com"><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>AllenTL.Huang@moxa.com</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; Anja Mrosowski &lt;</span><span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:Anja.Mrosowski@meg.mee.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>Anja.Mrosowski@meg.mee.com</span></a></span><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>&gt;; Bastian Otto &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:

DE-AT'><a href="mailto:BOtto@hilscher.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>BOtto@hilscher.com</span></a></span><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>&gt;; Bob Lattimer &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:

DE-AT'><a href="mailto:bob.lattimer@opcfoundation.org"><span lang=DE

style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>bob.lattimer@opcfoundation.org</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; Brian Batke &lt;</span><span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:babatke@ra.rockwell.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>babatke@ra.rockwell.com</span></a></span><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>&gt;; Christophe Mangin &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:

DE-AT'><a href="mailto:c.mangin@fr.merce.mee.com"><span lang=DE

style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>c.mangin@fr.merce.mee.com</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; David Cho &lt;</span><span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:cho@idata-inc.jp"><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>cho@idata-inc.jp</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; David McCall &lt;</span><span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:david.mccall@intel.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>david.mccall@intel.com</span></a></span><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:

DE'>&gt;; Didier Paul (</span><span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:padidier@cisco.com"><span lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>padidier@cisco.com</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>) &lt;</span><span lang=DE-AT

style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:padidier@cisco.com"><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>padidier@cisco.com</span></a></span><span

lang=DE style='mso-ansi-language:DE'>&gt;; Dietmar Bruckner &lt;</span><span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:dietmar.bruckner@br-automation.com"><span lang=EN-US

style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>dietmar.bruckner@br-automation.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Georg St�ger &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:georg.stoeger@tttech-industrial.com"><span lang=EN-US

style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>georg.stoeger@tttech-industrial.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

George Ditzel &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:george.ditzel@se.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>george.ditzel@se.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Gunnar Lessmann &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:glessmann@phoenixcontact.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>glessmann@phoenixcontact.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Steindl, G�nter (DI

FA TI ART EA) &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:guenter.steindl@siemens.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>guenter.steindl@siemens.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Jack CY Lin &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:Jack.Lin@moxa.com"><span

lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Jack.Lin@moxa.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Jordon Woods &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:jordon.woods@analog.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>jordon.woods@analog.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Dorr, Josef (DI PA DCP

TI) &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:josef.dorr@siemens.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>josef.dorr@siemens.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Karl Wachswender &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:Karl.Wachswender@latticesemi.com"><span lang=EN-US

style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Karl.Wachswender@latticesemi.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Lars Ellegaard &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:lars.ellegaard@microchip.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>lars.ellegaard@microchip.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Li Ming &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:li.ming@huawei.com"><span

lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>li.ming@huawei.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Ludwig Leurs &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:Ludwig.Leurs@boschrexroth.de"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>Ludwig.Leurs@boschrexroth.de</span></a></span>&gt;; Lukas Wuesteney &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:Lukas.Wuesteney@belden.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>Lukas.Wuesteney@belden.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Maik Seewald &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:maseewal@cisco.com"><span

lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>maseewal@cisco.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Marius-Petru Stanica &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:marius-petru.stanica@de.abb.com"><span lang=EN-US

style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>marius-petru.stanica@de.abb.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Mittelberger, Martin (DI PA DCP TI) &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:

DE-AT'><a href="mailto:martin.mittelberger@siemens.com"><span lang=EN-US

style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>martin.mittelberger@siemens.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Nithin Babu &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:nithin.babu@in.abb.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>nithin.babu@in.abb.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Patrick Loschmidt &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:patrick.loschmidt@tttech-industrial.com"><span lang=EN-US

style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>patrick.loschmidt@tttech-industrial.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Paul Brooks &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:pbrooks@ra.rockwell.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>pbrooks@ra.rockwell.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Peter Lutz &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:peter.lutz@opcfoundation.org"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>peter.lutz@opcfoundation.org</span></a></span>&gt;; Priyadharshini

Prabhakaran &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:priyadharshini.p@kalycito.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>priyadharshini.p@kalycito.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Rafael Selent &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:rafael.selent@de.abb.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>rafael.selent@de.abb.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Shahaji B &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:shahaji.b@in.abb.com"><span

lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>shahaji.b@in.abb.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Stephan Kehrer &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:Stephan.Kehrer@belden.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>Stephan.Kehrer@belden.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Thomas Enzinger &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:thomas.enzinger@inchstone.com"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>thomas.enzinger@inchstone.com</span></a></span>&gt;; Tom Ko &lt;<span

lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a href="mailto:Tom.Ko@moxa.com"><span

lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Tom.Ko@moxa.com</span></a></span>&gt;;

Vincent Lacroix &lt;<span lang=DE-AT style='mso-ansi-language:DE-AT'><a

href="mailto:lacroix@systerel.fr"><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:

EN-US'>lacroix@systerel.fr</span></a></span>&gt;<br>

<b>Betreff:</b> UAFX Networking WG - minimum cycle time</p>



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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>Hello all,</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>Regarding OPC Part 84 Table 9   UAFX Ethernet networking

quantities, UAFX EthernetBridgeQuantities Scheduled Traffic minCT</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>In Mantis, we have:</p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



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 style='border-collapse:collapse;mso-yfti-tbllook:1184;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 0in'>

 <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>

  <td width=924 valign=top style='width:692.65pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=MsoNormal>MR 5177: The network may have a cycle time of 31.25us (<a

  href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmantis.opcfoundation.org%2Fview.php%3Fid%3D5177&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cdietmar.bruckner%40br-automation.com%7Cabb59d2e9a57476d413508da89aba0f0%7C372ee9e09ce04033a64ac07073a91ecd%7C0%7C0%7C637973667484457664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=hCnJorpxRQ%2Fp5qoRACS4obbuLjRcOuISGA6JWL5O%2BGw%3D&amp;reserved=0">0005177:

  The network may have a cycle time of 31.25us - MantisBT (opcfoundation.org)</a>)</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>From MVS ppt:</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>Cycle times of down to 32kHz shall be possible</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>And constrained by network capability not specification</p>

  </td>

 </tr>

</table>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



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 style='border-collapse:collapse;mso-yfti-tbllook:1184;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 0in'>

 <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>

  <td width=924 valign=top style='width:692.65pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=MsoNormal>MR 4922: Communication cycle times down to 31,25 usec</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>Communication cycle times down to 31,25 usec</p>

  </td>

 </tr>

</table>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>There is another requirement that seems related (not

specifically on network cycle but likely related):</p>



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 style='border-collapse:collapse;mso-yfti-tbllook:1184;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 0in'>

 <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'>

  <td width=924 valign=top style='width:692.65pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;

  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'>

  <p class=MsoNormal>MR 5943: Cycle time groups: 2ms and below (<a

  href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmantis.opcfoundation.org%2Fview.php%3Fid%3D5943&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cdietmar.bruckner%40br-automation.com%7Cabb59d2e9a57476d413508da89aba0f0%7C372ee9e09ce04033a64ac07073a91ecd%7C0%7C0%7C637973667484457664%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=%2BeQJjhqIgAjRzCBIrZF0Cf98IoWQyyQu%2Bdeqe%2BOHj3I%3D&amp;reserved=0">0005943:

  Cycle time groups: 2ms and below - MantisBT (opcfoundation.org)</a>)</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>At 2ms and below, the communication rates shall belong to

  the binary group or the non-binary group or may belong to both groups:</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>Binary cycle timing group: 2ms, 1ms, 500�s, 250�s, 125�s,

  62.5�s, 31.25�s, and lower</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>Non-binary cycle timing group: 2ms, 1.6ms, 1.2ms, 800�s,

  400�s, 200�s, 100�s, 50�s, 25�s, and lower</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>It is acceptable that an FLC automation component operates

  using only one cycle timing group, (either binary or non-binary).</p>

  </td>

 </tr>

</table>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



<p class=MsoNormal>In addition, there are MR 6437, 6436, 6435, 6434 that

mention specific network cycles of 50, 100, 500, and 100 �s, respectively. </p>



<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>



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  <p class=MsoNormal>MR 6437: FLC motion shall support operation of 6 motion

  functional entities with a 50 �sec network cycle period.</p>

  <p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

  <p class=MsoNormal>FLC motion shall support operation of 6 motion functional

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The decision, as approved during the 2022-09-07 NWG meeting, is to change the Title and Description of the CU as follows:

UAFX EthernetBridgeQuantities Scheduled Traffic Cycle Time 800/1000

Support at least admin and oper cycle times (see IEEE Std 802.1Q, clause 12.29.1) of 800 µs and 1 ms for the enhancement of scheduled traffic mechanism for ports operating at either 100 Mb/s or 1 Gb/s.
NOTE: Higher and lower application cycle times can be achieved with reduction and sub-cycling (see ConformanceUnit UAFX EthernetBridgeQuantities Scheduled Traffic GCL 16/64).

Bob Lattimer

2022-09-14 14:07

manager   ~0017658

Reviewed and accepted during 2022-09-14 NWG and AWG meetings.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2022-09-07 21:56 Bob Lattimer New Issue
2022-09-07 22:01 Bob Lattimer Note Added: 0017558
2022-09-07 22:01 Bob Lattimer File Added: UAFX Networking WG - minimum cycle time.htm
2022-09-07 22:03 Bob Lattimer Note Edited: 0017558
2022-09-07 22:11 Bob Lattimer Assigned To => Bob Lattimer
2022-09-07 22:11 Bob Lattimer Status new => resolved
2022-09-07 22:11 Bob Lattimer Resolution open => fixed
2022-09-07 22:11 Bob Lattimer Fixed in Version => 1.00.00
2022-09-07 22:11 Bob Lattimer Note Added: 0017559
2022-09-14 14:07 Bob Lattimer Status resolved => closed
2022-09-14 14:07 Bob Lattimer Note Added: 0017658